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Strategies for Using the Landed Estates Database

3 Jan By Dwight Leave a Comment

The University of Ireland Galway has developed a Connacht and Munster Landed Estates Database covering estates in counties Clare, Cork, Galway, Kerry, Leitrim, Limerick, Mayo, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary and Waterford. It documents historic estate houses, families and records from c1700 through 1914, opening up new research avenues for family historians.

The database can be searched by Estate, Family and Houses. The Estates included those with over 500 acres, although when interconnected with large estates, smaller ones are also listed. There are over 4500 Houses and 2700 Families currently in the database. There are alphabetical links which directs the researcher to the appropriate page. There is also a Search feature which does allow for a word search in the entire database.

The various searches are cross referenced with each other; making this feature one of the most important on this website.

Research Strategies for the Cross Reference Listings

The Registry of Deeds can record marriages as well as layers of leases. This can be confusing. By taking the names mentioned in the deeds and comparing them with the database, the chances are good family and social relationships will begin to emerge more clearly.

Often connections between various landed families are not obvious. The database includes maps showing where the estates were located which may give you extra clues to connect your tenant family with another one with the same surname a few miles away.

When studying the townland names, it is important to remember these did change. Townland names and boundaries were not officially set until the 1830s by the Ordnance Survey. A search may help you identify places no longer on an official map.

The cross references is also helpful in determining if a landed family had several estates. If tenants were moved between the estates for work, this can explain migration patterns.

Reference Listings in the Database

For the genealogist, the References are the very core of this database. These include Archival Sources, such as manuscripts at the National Library of Ireland; Contemporary Printed Sources, such as Griffith’s Primary Valuation or the Parliamentary Papers; and Modern Printed Sources, such as local periodicals. It is within these References that the survival of estate papers can be identified. That in itself is the end game for most of our research.

Filed Under: Irish Ancestry Tagged With: Databases, Estate Records, Landed Estates, Strategies

How do You Know You have the Right Landlord?

14 Oct By Dwight Leave a Comment

If you know the townland your ancestor lived; you are ready to seek the landlord’s estate papers. These are the estate’s private business papers. Many survive, documenting the tenants through leases and rent books. However, the big hurdle is in identifying the landlord so that the correct estate records can be examined.

Start with Griffith’s Primary Valuation (1847-64) which can be found online in numerous places such as: www.askaboutireland.ie The “Immediate Lessor” column means the landlord for the property your ancestor lived on. Remember, a landlord is not necessarily a land owner. The landlord may lease, sub-lease or have a rent agreement with the land owner. If you see the word “In Fee” then you know that is the owner. A title such as Sir, Baronet, Marquis, Lady or Lord also gives an indication you are on the right track.

About 25% of the estates went through the Incumbered (Encumbered) Estates Court. The sales for these bankrupt estates are online: www.findmypast.ie in the collection “Landed Estates Court Rentals, 1850-1885.” You may discover the land owner listed in Griffith’s purchased the townland through an auction, and is not the one you are interested in.

Always compare your findings with the Tithe Applotment (1823-37); indexed online at: www.ancestry.com This source may provide the major lease holder or the owner’s name. However, just be aware townland boundaries and names did not necessarily correspond with the later Griffith’s.

Also, use the Registry of Deeds which begin in 1708, and are on microfilm at the Family History Library: www.familysearch.org There is a place name index and you can access every registered deed for a particular townland.

Always ask yourself if you have the correct landlord or if there were a series of them. This question alone will affect the direction your research takes.

Filed Under: Irish Ancestry Tagged With: Land Records, Landed Estates, Strategies

Dwight A. Radford

Dwight A. Radford is a professional family history researcher. Along with his staff they specialize in Ireland, England, Canada, African American, Native American, and United States. Connecting families together through historical documents and then creating a cherished family heirloom published book for generations to enjoy. Full bio…

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